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It’s one thing to have a website and publicly criticize public officials and policy makers. Mocking the general public through there social media channels and then not having the balls to put a name on your cyber bullying posts is pretty low and classless.
I can’t accuse anyone of anything because no one had the balls to put their name on either of those posts. But if you read the definition I’d say someone is walking a pretty fine line to deliberately harm other people through their social media profiles
This set me off.
Chris Smith and Alan Bedenko join me for the first One Thing Podcast of 2013. I respond to these ridiculous quotes (from a guy I like) as we discuss social media and the “controversy” surrounding public usage of things that are posted PUBLICLY.
For once, I’m the loud one.
If you don’t have time to listen, here’s the point (which you may have picked up from the headline):
If you don’t want people to read your words, don’t post them online.
Hey, guys. My appendix hurts. What should I do about it?
@bwtsujimoto Stop whining and get yourself to a doctor.
Couldn’t agree more with this rant, and I have enjoyed the recent posts calling out people for outrageous Twitter posts. A couple years ago I called out a friend on Twitter who was trolling Tim Graham about his prediction to the 2011 Bills. And I told him, if you think Tim is so wrong (was predicting the Bills around 7-9) then let’s make a bet! Needless to say I won that bet
its one thing to write your stupid blogs about people in the public interest (bills, sabres, tv personalities, etc) but when you guys stoop to a new low to post random peoples tweets for the purpose of publicly humiliating them online, well thats just dirty.im not sure what angle youre going for but there’s alot of nice people in this town (and most of them are better people than any of you editors) so to put them on blast for responding to a Lydia Dominick tweet or complaining about their gym being busy is not going to go over well in this area.
and now you are writing a new blog about how youre upset that people are pissed off at some of your posts? how about this…dont go out of your way to try and make fun of people if you dont want any repurcussions. those in the public eye wont say anything back to you because they have a code of conduct they need to follow…but the average WNYer is not gonna take kindly to you singling them out and pointing a finger online and laughing. So be careful and stop whining when people dont think your blogs are as awesome as you think they are.
on your podcast you explained your definition of cyber-bullying is “the use of social media to harm someone or intentionally harm somebody”thats exactly what you did. you posted tweets from average citizens of western new york to make fun of them online for all to see.the one about the gym posts you went so far as to call all those people “horrible human beings” which last i heard, was a pretty foul insult.you are cyber-bullying, im sorry.youre going out of your way to make fun of these people and so what if the tweets they post are “public”.
youre not going to stand in-line behind an overweight person at the bank and then point to everyone in line “hey look how fat this girl is who doesnt excercize guys! lets all laugh at her”. i mean you could, and youre “allowed to” but you would be viewed as a douchebag…which is exactly how all 3 of you are viewed right now for defending these actions.
@jorge rando Well, first of all, if you’re going to post something on Twitter, you’re inviting people to read it, respond to it, and comment on it. There’s nothing whatsoever that prevents anyone from doing so in a forum that isn’t Twitter. Secondly, if these people didn’t want to look foolish, they wouldn’t post foolish things. No one from Trending Buffalo started harassing them or exposing them to their wives or significant others, for instance.
As for the “fat girl” hypothesis: TB criticized certain Buffalonians on Twitter for being quite cruel about people who were going to the gym as part of a New Year’s Resolution. One person was singled out positively for being supportive of them. It is bullying to scorn bullies and praise goodhearted people? I don’t think so.
Also, how dare you cyberbully me by calling me a douchebag. You should be ashamed of yourself, based on your own criteria.
@buffalopundit you are right, theres nothing that “prevents” someone to do it. but that doesnt mean its ok.i am aware the things i post on my twitter everybody can see. but if i saw WGRZ or heard 103.3 The Edge broadcast one of my tweets labeling me, a random citizen who is not of public interest, as someone who is “trying to get with Lydia Dominick” or “a horrible person cause my gym was busy”…well i feel there’s still a small code of ethics behind that. its still rude. youre picking on people who dont have the network and audience to defend themselves. You can say whatever you want about anybody on this site and there’s nothing any of these people you make fun can do about it.Its not like these people are posting “kill the jews” or “god hates fags”. i think people who tweet things of that nature are more “open season” for retaliation for sites like yours. But to search twitter to see who’s trying to hit on who and “expose them for all to see”, i mean cmon guys. i cant believe you guys are trying so hard to justify good reason for this. its not cool.
@jorge rando If you don’t want your Tweets to be commented on, set up a protected account. Otherwise, you have to deal with the consequences of what you write for public consumption. Own your behavior. It’s really that simple.
@buffalopundit its a shame that youve stooped so low to condone this behavior. ive heard you on WBEN and you have some great opinions of a variety of different subjects. but for you to pretty much tell all of western new york “were gonna post whatever tweets for you we want and theres nothing you can do about it so watch out” is just awful. id expect brad & chris to continue doing stuff like this (cause all they do on their podcasts is complain like little schoolgirls) but for you alan, i thought you were a little better than this.i cant wait to see whats next. how about searching everyone on twitter who recently had some bad news happen (family member passing, dog died, etc.) and then expose them all for tweeting about to just gain attention and sympathy. that sounds like something this site would do. and fuck em right? if they posted on a “public forum” like twitter they should deserve such humiliation by such respectable thinkers like you three.gag me.
@buffalopundit i also want to add i made a few spelling errors up above and theres no edit button. so by all means you can write a new blog about how illeterate the people are who feed back on these pages. cause i bet thats what youre thinking too right?
@jorge rando I have no idea what you’re talking about anymore, and your hypotheticals are silly. I don’t understand why anyone would want to humiliate someone who went through loss of a loved one or how you equate that with some guy wanting to fuck Lydia Dominick, or someone being a fucking asshole about people trying to better themselves at the gym. But you’re entitled to your opinion, such as it is. As for your assumption below that I would critique your grammar/spelling or suggest that you’re illiterate, you should know that I only blog about things that interest me.
@buffalopundit what a condescending asshole
I’m personally not a fan of going to a website that creates a repository of people saying stupid stuff through social networking. I come to this site to read and listen to good discussions on Buffalo culture, sports and news.
I’m not a fan of social networking for the most part mainly because I understand the ramifications if used carelessly. I’m on Facebook but my profile is locked down and I don’t have a Twitter account. I operate in this manner because I don’t want my information being shared in a means I find undesirable.
Unfortunately, I would say 80% or more of social networking users don’t understand how their online activities can impact them. These users have an unreasonable perception of privacy and get angry when their information is shared outside their perception.
The hosts of this podcast are part of the other 20% that understand the real perception of privacy on these social networking sites. Conflict begins when the 80% find out how their information could be used (ex. Embarrassing tweets getting posted on a popular website). It is a hard reality to digest when your perception of security and privacy are dismantled.
On one of the Life Coaches podcasts there was a discussion of decisions being made by a 22-year-old version of yourself and an older version of yourself. I believe the younger population doesn’t take into account the ramifications of their online actions could have. Going through experiences of being embarrassed online might help develop maturity and real expectations of privacy online.
I enjoy the website and podcasts and I wish everyone the best of luck.
This is a very good point. Every few weeks I heard someone complain about a FaceBook post reply or something equally avoidable. I completely agree with Brad on this one… Social Media are usually designed to be public platforms, not always but mostly.
You should assume that anything you post on social media websites could be made public at any time. Mistakes happen often enough to make it a consideration. FaceBook “private” messages are anything but and get mistakenly published fairly often.There are ways to protect tweets, FaceBook messages, et al, but Terms Of Service change. People could share your hidden messages. Protections fail.@jorge rando: Your bullying argument is invalid the moment you start calling names.